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Monday, January 28, 2013

[Archive] Narrator and Point of View Assignment for Monday, 1/28/13

Due to weather-related closures, please complete the following online assignment today in lieu of meeting in person. We will resume in-person meeting on Wednesday, prepared to discuss this material and begin the next chapter as listed in the syllabus reading schedule.

As we know from our reading, the author's choice of narrator shapes the story's point of view. Assignment: Answer one of the following prompts in one paragraph. Your comment should begin with your first and last names, and by identifying the number of the prompt you're answering. Use standard English. Cite textual evidence from the story you analyze. Remember: summarize or paraphrase most evidence and quote only when the exact phrasing is unique or especially important. Your comment may respond to previous comments as long as it otherwise fulfills these assignment criteria. Citation includes in-text citation and a list of Works Cited. See the citation link on this blog for instructions.
William Faulkner
Edwidge Danticat

1. The narrator of Danticat's story "New York Day Women" uses present tense. What would she have gained or lost by telling her story in past tense?

2. What is the point of view of the italicized passages in Faulkner's "Barn Burning"? What do they teach the reader? What do they add to the story? Do they add irony?

In order to post a comment here, you must have an online account compatible with Blogspot. You may use either an existing online account, like your SU gmail account, or set up a new one expressly for online work in this class. You may use whatever online moniker you prefer (barring the offensive) as long as your posts include your name. After the semester is over and final grades issued, you are free to disable any online account you used for this class. This assignment counts as one participation grade and is due by midnight on 1/29/13.

26 comments:

  1. Caroline Madden

    In Danticat’s short story ‘New York Day Woman’ the narrator finds her mother walking around the streets of New York City. This is unusual to her because she had never seen her mother leave Brooklyn. The author puts the story in present tense. By doing this, it gains a sense of urgency. The author is letting the audience see how the events unfold in the narrator’s eyes, the narrator says “I follow my mother, mesmerized by the many possibilities of her journey.” (Danticat 239) You see each thing as it happens, such as her mother eating the hot dog, or taking care of the child, and that surprise continues to build. Also, there is more at stake when the narrator says, “If she turns around, she might see me.” (Danticat 240) she hopes not to be caught. However, if the story was set in past tense you would have gained a sense of reflection. The narrator would offer more of a feedback and explanation on how seeing these things made her feel rather than her immedieate reactions and describing her observations.

    WORKS CITED

    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mandell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. N. pag. Print.

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  2. Christian Barbato 1

    In Edwidge Danticat's "New York Day Women", the narrator talks about how she saw her mother, a Brooklyn resident, randomly walking the streets of Midtown Manhattan. The narrator was in shock because her mother "never shops outside of Brooklyn" and is "afraid to take the subway" (Danticat 238). The narrator uses the story in the present tense because she is talking about how she is following her mother during her lunch break from work. She is explaining that she is watching her mother looking at jewelry,stopping at a hot-dog stand for a soda, and watching her mother sit in a park while watching a child. I believe if the story was told in the past tense, the narrator would have gained more information because she would have been explaining how she surprisingly saw her mother during her lunch break. The narrator would have been trying to figure out why her mother was in Manhattan while at work and while on her evening commute going home from work.

    Works Cited

    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mandell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-243 Print.

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  3. Rachel Wilks 1

    The narrator of Danticat’s story “New York Day Women” uses present tense. The narrator of the short story is Suzette. Suzette tells the story in first person. The narrator talks about how she follows her mother down the streets of Manhattan as she follows her she says “I have never seen her in this kind of neighborhood, peering into Chanel and Tiffany’s”(Danticat 238). When the narrator is following her mother into the park she said, “If she turns around, she might see me” since the story is in present tense the reader is able to feel the suspense of rather the mother will see her daughter following her or not (Danticat 240). If the story were written in past tense we would have known from the beginning that the Suzette’s mother never saw her following her down the street. I believe that if the story was written in past tense it would not of been as good as it was in the present tense.

    Works Cited
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mandell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  4. Kelly Scott

    In Edwidge Danticat’s “New York Day Women,” a girl is following her mother around Manhattan. This surprises her because her mom never shops outside of Brooklyn. Finally she sees why her mother has ventured out of Brooklyn: “the woman kisses the child good-bye and surrenders him to my mother” (Danticat 240). Her mother is a day woman that comes when nobody expects to watch a woman’s child. This story was told in present tense so the reader can fully understand what the narrator is thinking and feeling right as she is confronted with each thing she sees her mother do. It allows the reader to know personal thoughts that the narrator remembers of her mother. However if this story was told in past tense, I feel that it would be merely a story without the personal memories that the narrator thinks about. It would make the reader feel more detached from the narrator.

    Works Cited

    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. 8th Ed. Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mandell. Boston: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. 238-242 Print.

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  5. KIMBERLY BRADY
    PROMPT ONE

    The story of “New York Day Women”, written by Edwidge Danticat, is told in present tense, but it is not how you would expect the story to be written. Instead of the story having one narrator, it has two. At first it starts out with the daughter telling the story, and then the author switches it to the mother being the narrator. Author Danticat differentiates between the two narrators by bolding the mothers words and leaving the daughters in regular font. Using present tense allows for the reader to be involved. For example the sentence, “ As she heads toward the Plaza Hotel, a bicycle messenger swings so close that I want to dash forward and rescue her, but she stands dead in her tracks” (Danticat 240) This sentence really engages the reader and has them experiencing each event as soon as the narrator does. Another aspect that the author obtains by using present tense is that it allows for an easy transition between the mother speaking and the daughter. This shows when the author goes from the daughter talking about sending the clothes her mother buys her to goodwill to having the mother talk more about Goodwill.

    WORK CITED

    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mandell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  6. Laura Grinavic

    PROMPT NUMBER 1

    In Danticat's "New York Day Women" the narrator uses present tense, because the use of past tense would have resulted in the loss of the reality of what was the life of the women that are the main focus in this short story. The fact that the mother is still very concerned with her family and even saves things for them still (Danticat 240) shows that there is a reality that the mother believes and will always help her daughter to know. The reality of the daughter is also shown in the use of present tense. The fact that she is using memories as reality to help her know about her mother such as the mother not going to parent teacher meetings (Danticat 242). These are not just the past, these are not memories, to these women these moments are reality and are always present. Using past tense would just push the memories farther from the reality of the information the daughter is finding out about the mother.

    WORK CITED

    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  7. Chanda McCarty
    1. If the story was written in past tense the story would lose a lot of the feelings in the story. As when she says, “I have never seen her in this kind of neighborhood” (238). When the author says this it shows mystery, which will make the reader wonder the same thing. Another reason it is written is present time instead of past time is it gives a felling of being right there imagining the author walking through the park following her mother. It may also create a more modern day approach because there are so many CSI shows out that it creates a stalking approach and many people may be interested because it goes back to the mystery approach. Another thing is that it may make the reader wonder if the mother saw her daughter or if it really is her mother or a woman that looks similar to her. Either way writing the story in present tense instead of past was much better because of all the mystery it portrays.


    Works Cited
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mandell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. 238-42. Print.

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  8. PROMPT #2

    "Barn Burning" by William Faulkner, is a short story written in the point of view of a young boy. The italicized passages throughout the work are from the point of view of the young boy, in fact, they are his thoughts. They create irony because the thoughts are far too mature for his age at the time the story takes place. The passages serve as a sort of flashback, they are a sort of reflection that his older mature self is looking back on his younger years. With this, readers gather information about the character to fully understand the loss of innocence that Sartoris is going through in the story. His running away at the end of the piece symbolize him maturing and running away from the things that oppressed him, i.e, his father and the troubles he caused him with all the legal issues and strictness. Furthermore the italicized passages add to the overall tone of the piece by adding a deeper layer of understanding for the main character.

    Faulkner, William. "Barn Burning."
    Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Bostin, MA: Wadsworth Cengaga Learning, 2011. p 224-236 Print.

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  9. Tori Delaney

    "New York Day Women" by Edwidge Danticat works so well in the present tense because it puts you in the moment with the daughter, seeing what her mother actually does during the day. It wouldn't work as well in the past tense because it woud just be a boring story about her mothers day and how the daughter didn't know she did all of these things during the day. In the present tense we can kind of tell how the daughter feels about her mother going out during the day and how weird this is for the daughter to see her mother going out and doing these things. While this day goes by the daughter remembers all of these things her mother has said like, "Would you get up and give an old lady like me your subway seat?" (Danticat 238). I think these things are important because the daughter used to think her mom didn't go out, but now that she does she understands all of these things that she has told us, she has in fact experienced the city and the subway more often than she tells her daughter, and for that matter anyone else in the family.

    Works Cited

    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  10. Craig A. Hollander
    Prompt 1

    If Edwidge Danicat, the author of "New York Day Women," used the narrator voice in a present tense instead of a past tense voice in order to embrace the characters perception of the mother as a daughter, not a narrator. If the author had not utilized a limited omniscient point of view, the persona of the narrator would not have the emotion behind what is being said, and how the daughter views her mother. To be able to be with the character as she follows her mother and uncovers how beautiful she is away from her is more personal than any story that just has a simple play by play narration that has no true voice to present, just the facts. I believe the story would not be as effective if presented in another tense because of the effective use of the narrators sighting of her mother and then a reactionary thought to follow. The way the story is written with breaks in the text, past tense would sound off to me.


    Work Cited
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women."
    Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  11. In "New York Day Women" Danticat uses present tense to give us a great perspective of what is going on in the narrator's head. Using such phrases such as, "She throws away an empty soda can when the child is done with it.." (Danticat 241). She uses that to portray the narrators thoughts and how she feels about seeing her mother on the streets of New York. Using past tense wouldn't have let us see into the confused mind of the narrarator and it would have clouded the greatness of the story.

    Work Cited
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women."
    Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  12. Elizabeth Paras
    prompt 1

    “New York Day Women” could not be possibly written in any other tense besides the present for the sole reason that all of the content in it pertains to this day and age, and not the past. “I have never seen her in this kind of neighborhood, peering into Chanel and Tiffany’s and gawking at the jewels glowing in the Bulgari windows” (Danticat 238). If this story was written in the past this scenery would have been highly inaccurate because these luxurious stores did not inhabit Madison and Fifty- Seventh street in the past. New York was a different city in the past than it is now, and this story is too modern to be translated into past tense.


    Work Cited
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women."
    Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  13. Tila Thomas 1

    In the story "Barn Burning" by William Faulkner, the story is told through the eyes of a little boy.
    The italicized words throughout the story represent the thoughts of young Colonel Sartoris Snopes. Its exactly what he is thinking throughout the situations he is going through. The story is sort of a flashback that the older him is having about what really happened. I guess thats what makes his thoughts ironic. His thoughts he added are way beyond his years and since the story is technically a type of flashback it makes sense.


    Faulkner, William. "Barn Burning."
    Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Bostin, MA: Wadsworth Cengaga Learning, 2011. p 224-236 Print.

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  14. "New York Day Women" was written in present tense to tell the story in a greater detailed way. She uses it because it could more photographic to someone reading the story. when she says "In Haiti when you get hit by a car, the owner of the car gets out and kicks you for getting blood on his bumper" (Danticat 238) you can picture one getting out and actually kicking someone. If the story was written in past tense i feel that it would be a lot boring to read because you wouldn't be able to follow along as easily.

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    1. Work Cited
      Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women."
      Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p.238

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  15. Nicole Pratt
    Prompt One

    Many times, one can miss key elements when telling a story from a present point of view. I believe that if the short story “New York Day Women” had been told in a past tense, the writer could have learned more by analyzing what she had seen, rather than analyzing as she was seeing. The narrator clearly has never seen this side of her mother, and although she hints at questioning her motifs, she never goes into detail. This is because, in that moment the narrator was more worried about being seen then questioning why her mother had to go out in secret. We learn of characters for brief moments, but they are shallow observations. The writer, in the moment, had seemed more critical of the food her mother was eating and how it would affect her health. Looking at the story in a past tense, the narrator might have been able to tell us more on the reasons she had figured her mother would go out without notice, or even whom the random little boy was that seemingly knew her mother. In the present the writer does not seem in the least troubled of her mothers “second-life”. Given the chance to write from a past perspective, I feel that the author might have been more disturbed of her mothers innate ability to blatantly lie; her mother was able to preach one thing and then secretly go against her own words. The past clearly has more to offer.


    Works Cited

    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  16. Ubi Abdul-Jawad
    Prompt 1

    In "New York Day Women" written by Edwidge Danticat, is a story about a daughter and her mother. The story is told in present tense because you truly get the full story in the sense of every store has two sides. For example, "My mother, who watches the lottery drawing every night on channel 11 without ever having played the numbers.[said by the daughter] A third of that money is all I would need. We would pay the mortgage, and your father could stop driving that taxicab all over Brooklyn."(Danticat 239), here if it were told in past tense when the girl was older and the mother wasn't around we would think that the mother is crazy but in present tense we get the mother's side of the story and it makes it complete.

    Work Cited
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women."
    Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238 Print.

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  17. Drew Keenan
    Prompt #1

    In Edwidge Danticat's short story "New York Day Women" the narrator Suzette stealthily follows her mother around New York City. If this story were told in the past-tense, I think it would lose some appeal just because Suzette would have already experienced it. But since it is told in the present-tense, the narrator is learning what her mother does just as the reader is, which makes for a more interesting story. Also, if you were to realistically tell a story in the present-tense it would be more detailed because your memory would be fresh, as opposed to telling the story later on and maybe forgetting some of the small things that happened in the story.

    Works Cited
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women."
    Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242

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  18. Robert Rohr
    Prompt 1

    Danticat injects a strong use of Point of view technique throughout "New York Day Women." The fact that the story is written in the present is definitely important because it enables the reader to relive her mothers daily life experience. As the narrator's mother walks down the street she comes close to being hit but to the mother this is daily life. (Danicat 240). The use of past tense in this example would not make the moment as dramatic. Overall the use of present tense point of view is important to writing a good story.

    Works Cited

    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  19. Siaura Saville
    Prompt 1

    In Danticat's story, "New York Day Woman", the use of present tense is in a sense the most vital part of the story. In my view of the story, both the mother and Suzette are narrators of the story with Suzette speaking in the regular type and her mother in the bold type. Suzette asks her mom about dentures with asking, "Will it feel empty when Papa kisses you?" (Danticat 239). And then the next line doesn't sound like something Suzette would say at all and is the response given by the mother saying, "Oh no, he doesn't kiss me that way anymore" (Danticat 239).
    If this story had been done in the past tense, it would have had a different effect on the reader. We are living the walk through New York with Suzette as she is spying on her mother. If in the past tense, Suzette would already know what has happened with her mother and everyone else that she comes into contact with while on her walk through the park. So if this was in the past tense, the readers wouldn't feel as connected with the story as what we did with the story being in present tense.

    Works Cited
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242

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  20. Loryn Lyszczarz
    Prompt one
    The story of “New York Day Women”, written by Edwidge Danticat, is told in present tense. Writing the story in present tense allows the reader to gain a connection with the daughter as well as the mother, and a sense of the Haiti culture. “They look like a Third World Parent-Teacher Association” (Danticat 241). This gives the comparison between her mother and the society today. Along with the sentence talking about the narrator taking clothes to Goodwill and her mother saying they should be sent back to Haiti. The story in the present tense shows the feelings and thoughts of her mother and the things she has learned by following her, such as giving her seat up to a woman her mother’s age on the bus. If it were written in the past tense the author would have lost all of the emotion and purpose of the story.

    WORK CITED

    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mandell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  21. Kyle Robertson- Prompt 1
    In Danticat's "New York Day Women" the story is told in present tense, for many reasons. The first is to fulfill the goal of the author. She wanted to portray the story in a way, that did not seem outdated to the reader, but one that resounded as something that took place in our current now and day. "My mother, who watches the lottery drawing every night on channel 11 without ever having played the numbers." (Danticat 239) This, along with many other phrases the author uses, allows you to get the sense, that this story is taking place, as I am writing this and is one of the main reasons why she did not write it in past tense. Another reason is the amount of detail the present tense allows her to uncover."Today, walking down the street, I see my mother. She is strolling with a happy gait, her body thrust toward the DON'T WALK sign and the yellow taxicabs that make forty-five-degree turns on the corner of Madison and Fifty-seventh Street."(Danticat 238) You can clearly see the amount of illustration this point of view gives Danticat;It portrays the story, instead of just relaying one.

    Works Cited:
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242

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  22. Chris Lyons 1
    In the story "New York Day Women" the story is written in the present from Suzette's point of view with occasional insights to what her mother says.By writing in the present tense the reader gets the sense that they are there with Suzette while she is following her mother around the city.In the story Suzette is curious about her mother because she never goes to that part of NY. “I have never seen her in this kind of neighborhood, peering into Chanel and Tiffany’s and gawking at the jewels glowing in the Bulgari windows” (Danticat 238). If the story was written in the past tense we would have known that the mother never turns around to see that her daughter is following her. “If she turns around, she might see me” (Danticat 240). Writing the story in the past tense would take the suspense out of the story. One positive of writing in the past tense would be that Danticat could reflect on what happened and give us different perspectives of what happened and how she feels about it afterward.

    Works Cited
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mandell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  23. Ellen Hill

    Prompt 2

    In William Faulkner's "Barn Burning", the point of view is in that of a young Colonel Sartoris Snopes. Throughout the short story italicized passages are used to convey Sartoris's thoughts. These thoughts create irony because they are too mature for the age of Sartoris. The italicized passages can be from an older Sartoris as he reflects back on the events of the story. At the end of the story Sartoris runs away. This symbolizes his maturity and all the things that trapped him.

    Work Citied

    Faulkner, William. "Barn Burning."
    Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G. Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Bostin, MA: Wadsworth Cengaga Learning, 2011. p 224-236 Print.

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  24. Karly Najaka
    Prompt 1.

    The use of present tense in “New York Day Women” helps the reader imagine the narrators surprise in seeing her mother out around New York and doing the different little tasks she was doing. The reader is learning about her mother’s daily life along with the narrator, which impacts the emotional sense of the story. It makes the reader think about how well they know their mother and it makes them think about what their mother does all day. The use of present tense also helps to enforce the little life lessons the narrator remembers during the story. Each one has to do with what is occurring and telling the story in past tense would complicate the lessons the reader is hearing about through the narrator.


    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242 Print.

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  25. Sean Bowman
    Prompt 1

    The narrator of Danticat's story "New York Day Women" uses present tense. The use of present tense in the story really gives you a feeling as if you are standing on the street watching as "she stops at another hot-dog vendor's and buys a frankfurter.."(Danticat 240). If past tense were to be used, you would not get the same sense of being on the street at the time the events are taking place. You would feel less connected to the characters, the environment, and the events taking place around you.

    Works Cited:
    Danticat, Edwidge. "New York Day Women." Portable Literature: Reading, Reacting, Writing. By Laurie G Kirszner and Stephen R. Mendell. Boston, MA: Wadsworth Cengage Learning, 2011. p 238-242

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